Not sure if they do it deliberately, but there’s like this sorta expectation to sympathize with parents who despite being poor still have children. Didn’t they make a CHOICE though? Do you think they should be solely responsible for making it?

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    Ok then, lets exclude people who don’t know how babies are made. Do you still think a person who knows full-well that they won’t be able to support the kid should make one and that others should support them?

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      I think that society has a duty to raise the next generations socially, as generations are social existences. The problems of one family aren’t theirs alone, they impact everyone. Taking care of the young isn’t an individual responsibility, but a societal one. This is the only conclusion from a moral and and economic perspective. You want to punish people, you do not want a better society, economy, or world with as little pain as possible. You just want people to suffer, because you’re either willingly cruel or unwillingly ignorant.

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      Do you still think a person who knows full-well that they won’t be able to support the kid should make one and that others should support them?

      Yes.

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          Because we live in a society and allowing people to starve to death because they have children is unconscionable.

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            A person spends their whole paycheck on a new phone. Should they also get helped?

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                What I am trying to say here is that when it comes to desicion to buy a phone you are saying that the person is responsible for their actions and shouldn’t have bought a phone, but when it comes to making a baby they suddenly aren’t? How doss that make sense? Genuinely asking. Do you also, like many here, believe that having children should be a human right?

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                  you are saying that the person is responsible for their actions and shouldn’t have bought a phone

                  Don’t put words in my mouth.