If you actually want to support artists, don’t. YouTube Music’s royalty payout is far from stable and transparent, not to mention low to others which is already hard to beat really. Tidal comes closest (from what I found to having functionality and paying artists a more fair rate. Qobuz is there too, Deezer pioneers detecting AI garbage that people think makes them artists now. Spotify got most features ofc but they’re unethical as shit
The more they charge, the fewer will pay.
I only ever get it when they send me an offer for 3 months for like $10 or something. Otherwise, fuck off Google, I’ll watch the shitty ads.
I prefer ublock origin
The only time I ever subscribed was when I could pay in Argentina. Came out to like $3.50 per month. Once they patched that loophole, they stopped getting my money.
Yeah, they’re worth maybe $5 a month or family. It’s just a bunch of B-F rate videos and they pay anyone that’s not in the B tier so little than you need to support them on patreon anyway.
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Still the best 16$ you can spend on video. My only issue is that this also correlates with increased ads which are clear net negative on our society.
We get it for $6.5 lol cuz we from poor region
Youtube what? Ohhh, that annoying popup I always decline. Apparently the price only matters if you buy it.
Newpipe is free. You can donate to support if you’d like. No account required, so no tracking. Subs and history are stored locally. And with an internet condom (VPN) no IP exposure.
How are they not getting blocked?
I’ve thought of mass scraping youtube for music, but it’s not worth ths risk of being banned by Google for life.
Newpipe (and all the other ad blockers) are playing cat and mouse with them. They make some changes which screw up blockers, blockers patch and return to service pretty quickly. I couple months ago they went so far as to force javascript proof of work, I was able to setup yt-dlp with the javascript engine in like 5 minutes and keep going.
They target different things, sometimes the try to block high quality streams, sometimes it’s not logged in streams, sometimes it’s streams from certain ips. They keep moving the cheese, deleting this rss feed or that stream type. At some point, they’ll implement actual encryption like widevine and make it actually difficult to get at the streams, at which point, we’ll just screen record, commercial skip and the best of the best will end up in torrents.
Their music quality is general marginal. Research soulseek.
Can’t use soulseek fairly without opening a port; I’m exclusively on mobile internet with a VPN without port forwarding… I might pay for home wifi for one month out of the year to fill my drive…
Who in their right mind actually pays for YouTube?
- I have kids and having them subjected to ads is a burden on them AND on me. I don’t get begged for the latest toys, or have to watch the latest ad for whatever cream will solve my latest rash…
- I don’t mind supporting channels that I watch. I also pay for PBS as I want to support that type of programming.
- I spend enough time supporting all the IT needs and maintaining my existing household’s IT infrastructure for players for all of the content that I download for my spouse and kids that isn’t available on YT or PBS.
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I do via India Apple Account. Only pay 4 bucks for a family account including Youtube Music.
It was at one point a perfectly good deal. Google Play Music was an awesome app and it came with ad-free YouTube for free. The family plan lets you share with 5 family members and was a great deal. Everybody is paying for some kind of music streaming service of some kind or another.
Everybody is paying for some kind of music streaming service of some kind or another.
Count me out. I’m building a music library of my own with the help of my local library, thrift stores, and the internet. And, shit, I just got a record player, too.
Oh I have my own selfhosted music library as well. But that doesn’t really solve the problem of music discoverability. Back in the day we had radio and MTV. These days streaming services are still a must on some level unless you’re content to just listen to the music you already have forever.
Either my kids ask for something new, or i hit billboard charts once in a while and true up my collection.
I like to use the time filter and can listen in 5 languages; “oldies” in various genres, times, and places, isn’t that hard to research–plenty of free internet radio out there.
Sorry to the new bands out there.
Edit: Also I find the mindset of finding the exact best music is kind of unhealthy. Building a tolerance for meh actually helps me discover things that don’t immediately and instantly appeal to me, and I think that leads to more musical variety in the long run than the skip-happy attitude streaming encourages.
I do. But I do it mainly to support the creators I follow. I’m not going to sign up for a bunch of patreon or channel subscriptions, but at least they can get their share of the subscription money.
Majority of people that are not nerds
You don’t have to be a nerd to run an APK file.Even my Baby Boomer mother can do it.
Or watch it from the TV app
Also also, creators get paid more per click from premium users.
This. Also, I pay $5 for a family plan in my country.
I do it for the YouTube music app. I live on Brazil and here costs something like 10us for the family tier so it’s not a big deal for me.
At that price, i’d do it.
Grayjay too.
Personally I prefer SmartTube
That’s what I use, but I thought it only worked on android TVs
On phone, I use revanced
Most of the revanced devs left the project (due to some issues with another dev) to found morphe, I suggest switching over to that
There’s a list of extra patches you can add to morphe here: https://old.reddit.com/r/MorpheApp/comments/1ta0bek/how_to_patch_more_apps_with_morphe/
You could be right. I indeed use SmartTube on my TV. It’s my primary device for watching YouTube videos.
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I’m loving noutube
… people pay for youtube?
… you know you can just block the ads, right?
… and you don’t need a propietary app to get youtube on a tv?
Problem for me is that YouTube is my main source of video entertainment. I like being a part of the reason creators can get paid.
Sure I hate giving google money, but if everyone does adblock and no one donates to creators, then there will be no quality content.
Many creators i watch probably has a patreon or similar, but I watch so many different ones that yeah, yt premium is the easiest way for me to support while being ad free.
YouTube is also my main source of video entertainment.
I am very poor, but if I wanted to help fund Youtubers, I would just donate to their patreons or ko-fis or directly purchase a channel membership to them specifically.
You being lazy about how you support creatives you like is a choice, a choice that indicates your laziness is more valuable to you than you not giving Google money, so please don’t lie to me when you say you hate giving Google money, you obviously don’t.
Donating to what is ostensibly dozens of creators patrons would be not only a great deal of money but also kind of untenable to manage. If an adequate amount of YouTube subscription money goes to creators then there’s nothing really wrong with that. I wouldn’t say it’s lazy at all.
No, it wouldn’t, just ask them to offer lower donation amounts/tiers, if the existing tiers are too high.
This really would not be much harder than managing an RSS feed.
If an adequate amount of money goes to doing the math to divide what would be donations equally, after Google’s cut of course… then you are being lazy, and are fine with giving Google money.
Would you give to a charity that had the same ‘admin overhead’ to ‘actual money put to use’ ratio as Google takes in their cut?
just ask them to offer lower donation amounts/tiers, if the existing tiers are too high.
Oh yes just reach out and ask your dozens of subscriptions to modify their subscription tiers just for you, I’m sure you’ll easily be able to reach them as one of their thousands/hundreds of thousands/millions of subscribers.
This really would not be much harder than managing an RSS feed.
lol. lmao even.
Would you give to a charity that had the same ‘admin overhead’
YouTubers are not a charity. They’re businesses using the YouTube platform for the convenience it provides them despite the overhead. I’m fully justified in utilizing the same platform to support them financially for the same reason.
Ok so you’re fine with paying money to Google.
Got it, you willingly fund an immoral corporation that’s on many different boycott lists of many different organizations, for many different reasons.
Sure, ok then.
I on the other hand value my moral nonhypocrisy more than you do.
Guess we just have different preferences.
No I just think you’re just an insufferable dork with a frankly privileged amount of free time on their hands to fuck about with what amounts to little more than internet virtue signaling.
I find no value in your hollow moral grandstanding at all and I don’t think anyone else here does either.
I think it’d be better for your health to value touching grass over this nonsense you’re talking about.
amazon wanted a subscription for more video skips. mute still free
Youtube already makes more money than Disney, right? So of course they ramp up prices. It‘s a successful product after all and the line must go up. The more money it makes the more expensive it‘ll get.
That‘s why you should never give them anything in the first place and use an Adblocker instead.
I would also recommend Sponsorblock because most Youtube sponsorships are overpriced garbage or complete scams. It honestly seems too good to be true but it‘s open source and apparently can cover operational costs on just donations. What I really like about Sponsorblock is how you can curate your experience to a T. It lets you skip all sort of content that you may not like such as self-promotions, credits, previews/flashbacks, intros, and more. It comes really close to the internet highways concept I have long only dreamed about where you‘re served exactly what you want and you don‘t need a silly AI agent to do any of it.
DeArrow is another useful extension for Youtube, created to remove clickbait from your feed. It removes thumbnails and changes video titles based on user suggestions similar to Sponsorblock.
Youtube „Premium“ could never give you this experience for all the money in the world.
DeArrow is another useful extension for Youtube, created to remove clickbait from your feed. It removes thumbnails and changes video titles based on user suggestions similar to Sponsorblock.
I generally use YouTube without logging in on the PC and clean history every now and then. No matter which videos I watch first, the feed gets populated with such amount of garbage, that it kinda surprises me. Softcore porn, cop and gun shit, shitty political stuff, it’s flabbergasting.
That’s unfortunately what the algorithm gives when it doesn’t know very much about you: bottom of the barrel slop. I’m the opposite and stay logged in, but I’m also diligent about removing items from my watchlist if I didn’t like them, or if I see they’re skewing the algorithm.
No
Gonna catch a lot of “get with the times” but an ad blocker and watching YouTube in browser on my phone - I’ve never seen the value of needing Premium to do adblocking or a whole ass app like Vanced. Maybe sponsorblock for more but like overall, my impression has always been YouTube Premium is a joke of a service that can never offer anything more than adblocking/sponsor block already just does from a browser on my phone.
This is why they’re trying to lock down everything. Nerfing ad blockers in chrome, semi-banning all unapproved apps in Android.
And don’t get me started on smart TVs. They were broken right out of the gate.
In addition to removing ads in YouTube, it also gives ad-free YouTube Music (which fucking sucks because it always plays the video version of the audio). But honestly, the biggest problem is the app itself shoving shorts down your throat and lacking a bunch of features that third-party clients have. And even if you pay to remove ads from YouTube, you can’t pay to remove ads from the videos themselves. You can only do that with sponsorblock, which YouTube could totally just adopt if they wanted but as is, you have to use third part apps anyway.
Laughs in ad block
